كعادته كان علاء ثوريا عندما اقترح فى مدونته ان تقوم كل فتاة تتعرض للتحرش الجنسى بوخز الجانى "بابرة تريكو" فى خصيته!!...ليس فقط لأنها أكثر الأماكن حساسية فى جسم الرجل,بل لإشعار الجانى ان بقاء جنسه على وجه الأرض فى خطر.
بصراحة...ما اقدرتش أخبى تأييدى للفكرة,و كمان اقترحت ان الانتقام يبقى فى صورة بوكس أو شاللوت كحل أسرع..
الواضح فعلا إن الحلول السلمية مش نافعة فى أى مجال,عشان كده لازم ناخد حقنا بإيدنا-أو برجلينا..أصل جريمة زى دى هتتثبت ازاى,لازم يكون فى شهود,و للأسف معظم الناس-ان وجدوا- مايعتمدش عليهم...ايه اللى حايدخلهم فى سين و جيم...هى كانت من باقية أهله...وأشياء من هذا القبيل...و الشتايم و الصويت لو كانت نافعة كنا خلصنا من الخنازير أم أيدين و رجلين دول من زمان.
علاء عنده أمل إن لو رد الفعل ده انتشر,حوادث التحرش الجنسى حتقل بكتير...
يا بنات:
ماتسمحوش لاحد انه يقلل من قيمتك و يتحرش بيكى,خلاص بقى كفايانا مشى فى الشارع بنتلصص حوالينا من الخوف كأننا إحنا الحرامية,أرفعوا راسكوا ودافعوا عن نفسكوا...
كفاية احساس بالذل و العجز.
و بما إن إننا نخضع جميعا لقانون الغاب,فليحيا الانتقام الفورى.
و مرة تانية...خلينا ايجابيين!!! إيدكوا و رجليكوا معايا يا بنات
الواضح فعلا إن الحلول السلمية مش نافعة فى أى مجال,عشان كده لازم ناخد حقنا بإيدنا-أو برجلينا..أصل جريمة زى دى هتتثبت ازاى,لازم يكون فى شهود,و للأسف معظم الناس-ان وجدوا- مايعتمدش عليهم...ايه اللى حايدخلهم فى سين و جيم...هى كانت من باقية أهله...وأشياء من هذا القبيل...و الشتايم و الصويت لو كانت نافعة كنا خلصنا من الخنازير أم أيدين و رجلين دول من زمان.
علاء عنده أمل إن لو رد الفعل ده انتشر,حوادث التحرش الجنسى حتقل بكتير...
يا بنات:
ماتسمحوش لاحد انه يقلل من قيمتك و يتحرش بيكى,خلاص بقى كفايانا مشى فى الشارع بنتلصص حوالينا من الخوف كأننا إحنا الحرامية,أرفعوا راسكوا ودافعوا عن نفسكوا...
كفاية احساس بالذل و العجز.
و بما إن إننا نخضع جميعا لقانون الغاب,فليحيا الانتقام الفورى.
و مرة تانية...خلينا ايجابيين!!! إيدكوا و رجليكوا معايا يا بنات
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ايواااااااااااااا كده انضمي لقافله البنات الثوريات المطالبات بحقوقهن والمدافعات عن انفسهن
eih dah ya noha,
it came to my knowledge before that you are a femenist but to the extent of 7'asy el regala.
no honey, if you think that you are terrorizing men by beating or nailing them betwwen their legs and saying you are threatening their existence.
excuse me in what i'm gonna say, but you won't find the perfect guy to marry and have children.
i'm not saying that all the guys are good but not to the extent of launching a campaign 3ashan te7'sohom
kda yeb2a enty bete2dy 3ala el gans el bashary kolo mosh el regala bas
e32aly ya noha badal mana a3aksek
web2y wareny ba2a 7ate3mely ma3aya eih
e32aly
hey ya Noha ezayek
eh ya 3am el kalam el gamed da haha
l2a bas fekra bardo ;) 3ashn yetrabo el regala !!!
by the way 3agabny gedan ramz el 7osan fe el post beta3tek ...
Noha ana bas kont 3ayza astafsar mnek 3ala eh hya el 7agat ely hanemte7en feha b2ezn allah youm 18/9 3ashn ana mesh 3arfa dr. sherine 2aletly ya 2emte7an shamel ya2ema practical criticism w language bas el kalam da kan ayam el natega w ba3daha safert fa2olt 2as2alek bardo mn 3ashamy ...
merci awy awy
Shaima'a
Hello Noha, It is very good for the egyption girls to defend themself. The peron who is saying that you wil never find anyone to marry, it is a stuiped comment because there are honest men who do not do such a bda things agianst the women.
have a nice day Sherif
s.anwarahmed@planet.nl
hello noha, this is a good idea but you have to think of the consequences like masalan en el ragel elly hate3mely feeh keda momken yeb2a more aggresive that he'll tear your clothes maslan, yeb2a bardo enty mastafedteesh be7aga bel 3aks enty beradek 3aleeh asbateeloh en enty bent (sorry to say that)bee2a, we 3ala fekra fee welad kol mabetrody 3aleehom kol mabeysta7loha aktar, fa my opimion your best way is to ignore him. sherif
To Sary,
Unless you're a stalker yourself...this campaign should not be of any offence to you.
And Sherif,
in such a situation...I don't give a damn what his reaction would be...certainly I won't let some maniac molest me then leave and enjoy his day while I go home in shame and crash my brain against the wall.Sorry.
You seem to miss an important point,guys.I'm talking about PHYSICAL sexual harrassment...not the silly remarks we hear all day long.
Hello wild and calm
I am a gree with you that the fighting of the physical sexual harrasement very important is. But it startes with education, telling our kids that a women is not only for our sexual needs as men but in the frist place a humianbeing with feelings the as man Learning our kids that no body has the right to intimidate other women physical or mentaly. I think that the silly remarks and not respecting the women as equial to the man is frist step in a long way that ending by physical sexual harrassment and raping.
Sherif
Yeaaah Kick them between the legs Girl.. Its the only place they care for and The only brain they Got!!
Ana ba2it ba5af amshy fl share3.. 7aga t2ref!!
I am with you
هاي شباب
زعلانين شكلكوا متضايقين؟ ليه؟
بتدردشوا بحرقة عن الموضوع؟ قاعدين في الكافيه الراقي وبتتفرجوا على ميلودي؟ ياه شايف البت اللي ع الشاشة دي.. أما حته ميني جيب.... ركزوا كده ازاي بتهز الوز.. غصبن عنوا هابوسوا..
عاجباكوا الأغنية اللي بعدها... راكب عربيتو ونازل في البت معاكسة وهية آخر انسجام.. في الآخر حصل إيه؟.. خلي بالك.. أخيرا ضحكتلوا وركبوا سوا رايحين على هناك.. يا وعدي يا غرامي
ركزي كويس .. البسي اللي تلبسيه.. ميني.. حجاب.. أي حاجة . المهم تتقصعي على الآخر.. ونظراتك كمان تكون جريئة شوية.. هاتوقعي البرنس الجميل في حبك.. تمام زي الأغنية دي.. نسيت أقولك أن عبال ما توصلي للبرنس الجميل مش حايحصل زي الأغنية تمام.. لأن منظرك هايلم عليكي الأول اللي يسوى واللي مايسواش
فاضية ما تيجي نتسكع في الشوارع مع صحباتك.. تعالي ننزل نص البلد لحسن مش هاندر نروح الديسكو.ز فيه شباب كتير هناك لو عاكسونا ها نعرف ان احنا آخر حلاوة.. متنسيش تحطي ميك اب كتير.. والبسي البلوزة الاسترتش.. والايشرب طبعا
الكذابين بيقولوا الحجاب هوة الحل.. طب ما انا محجبة اهوه وبرضة بيتقالي كلام.. صحيح اني لابسة الجينز المحزق اللي مخليني جامدة قوي, والبلوزة اللي ملزقة بس برضه محجبة..
الحل هوة حملة يلا نقلع الحجاب... ونضرب الرجالة. أصل الرجالة دول لازم يتفرجوا بس.. امال احنا بنتانك ونتلون ونتقصع ليه.. ومسموح كمان بالكلام بس اللام الرقيق.. أما الوسخ اللي يفكر يم ايده من غير إذن لازم ينتهي.. الشارع لنا نبرطع فيه زي ما احنا عاوزين.. لابسين او مش لابسين.. الرجالة يقعدوا ساكتين ويستمتعوا بالفرجة وبس.. يعتبرونا من نجوم مزيكا وميلودي
هاي شباب
زعلانين شكلكوا متضايقين؟ ليه؟
بتدردشوا بحرقة عن الموضوع؟ قاعدين في الكافيه الراقي وبتتفرجوا على ميلودي؟ ياه شايف البت اللي ع الشاشة دي.. أما حته ميني جيب.... ركزوا كده ازاي بتهز الوز.. غصبن عنوا هابوسوا..
عاجباكوا الأغنية اللي بعدها... راكب عربيتو ونازل في البت معاكسة وهية آخر انسجام.. في الآخر حصل إيه؟.. خلي بالك.. أخيرا ضحكتلوا وركبوا سوا رايحين على هناك.. يا وعدي يا غرامي
ركزي كويس .. البسي اللي تلبسيه.. ميني.. حجاب.. أي حاجة . المهم تتقصعي على الآخر.. ونظراتك كمان تكون جريئة شوية.. هاتوقعي البرنس الجميل في حبك.. تمام زي الأغنية دي.. نسيت أقولك أن عبال ما توصلي للبرنس الجميل مش حايحصل زي الأغنية تمام.. لأن منظرك هايلم عليكي الأول اللي يسوى واللي مايسواش
فاضية ما تيجي نتسكع في الشوارع مع صحباتك.. تعالي ننزل نص البلد لحسن مش هاندر نروح الديسكو.ز فيه شباب كتير هناك لو عاكسونا ها نعرف ان احنا آخر حلاوة.. متنسيش تحطي ميك اب كتير.. والبسي البلوزة الاسترتش.. والايشرب طبعا
الكذابين بيقولوا الحجاب هوة الحل.. طب ما انا محجبة اهوه وبرضة بيتقالي كلام.. صحيح اني لابسة الجينز المحزق اللي مخليني جامدة قوي, والبلوزة اللي ملزقة بس برضه محجبة..
الحل هوة حملة يلا نقلع الحجاب... ونضرب الرجالة. أصل الرجالة دول لازم يتفرجوا بس.. امال احنا بنتانك ونتلون ونتقصع ليه.. ومسموح كمان بالكلام بس اللام الرقيق.. أما الوسخ اللي يفكر يم ايده من غير إذن لازم ينتهي.. الشارع لنا نبرطع فيه زي ما احنا عاوزين.. لابسين او مش لابسين.. الرجالة يقعدوا ساكتين ويستمتعوا بالفرجة وبس.. يعتبرونا من نجوم مزيكا وميلودي
Hi
is it normal u say u are religious and even mohagaba (alhough it doesn't reflect a fact of being religious at all), and you sponsor the site of alaamanal which sponsor el shozooz elgensy!!!!!
Hi Masry,
Whether I'm religious or not happens to be part of my personal life. But as for manalaa and homosexuality...Manal and Alaa discussed various issues in their blog, some of which i agree with, some of which I don't, and others which i don't care about. I'm only writing about what Alaa proposed (playfully or seriously) as a reaction to sexual harrassment or even potential rape. Whether this is the correct way or not, I have to try in order to know, and I hope I wouldn't have to.
As for homosexuality...I never know they supported gays...and what if they do? I support gays myslf. Homosexuality is a FACT that you cannot deny or hush...just because some girls feel emotionally , or sexually attached to their peers doesn't mean we have to shoot them.
"Whether I'm religious or not happens to be part of my personal life"..
so why did u happen to share it with us :"ana mohagabe.. ana mohagaba.. ana motadayena"
"I have to try in order to know"..
hhahahahheheehehhe hoo.. very clever
"Homosexuality is a FACT" ..
what is factuous about shozooz! we don't definitely have to shoot shawaz or shoot hose who have mental illness.. may be we just have to treat them
"sexual harrassment or even potential rape"..
mix mix more papers.. mix mix more issues.. let the anarchy begins.. so mp3akasat = harrassemnet = rape
anyways i don't blame you, me myself felt like doing the same to those bitches lining the street, and no one care to kick them away, I thought when the fuckin sharmoota offers me to fuck her next time I should have a long needle in her pussy.. she is sexually harrasing me yo know.. what do u think? will it work
anyway, i feel merciful for you guys, I hate mo3akasat so much, I hate watching girls (just as fuckin religious as you are" smiling happily when bastards tell them nasty things, they smile with their female friends who have all dressed up for the night.. they are so happy bastards talk about their titiies poping out .. I guess girls do that to go at the end touch themselves and think about those bastards and dreaming of them doing what is more than just talk..
you are pathatic, you guys a group of mo3akadeen who hate that low life guys talk to you while you have un-dressed up not to attract them but o attract rich and handsome guys to your net... 3ala el3omoom, te7seeh? tomosseeh? it is all up to you
Guys I felt sick reading your comments, that's to start with:
Masry,
I did mention that I'm veiled, which is none of your business, but I didn't mention whether I'm religious or not, which is none of your business just the same. There is a difference between a mo3aksa , a harrassment and a rape and I know it. Momken a3allemak? Mo3aksa maybe words...maye mad eed, maybe kalaksat bel 3arabeya...harrassment is any kind of unwelcome sexual behaviour...bema feeha elkalam 3ashan teb2a 3aref. Rape beythay2ly ma3roofa. It's Alaa's friend who put "7at3akes", which is a very general term, on the banner. I don't care what he writes...I just don't understand why it's ok for you that girls defend themselves by whichever way they choose. And I don't understand why you don't blame a friend of yours bey3akes walla bekalkess lel banat w gay teshtemny ana.
I didn't say 'I'll take revenge from poor guys and let rich guys have their way with me"!!! And I don't even know what put that in your head!!! Abuse is abuse w balash ba2a kalam keteer.
Anonymous,
لا يا انونيموس...الشارع ده بتاعك تقفش فى الجوارى اللى تحت سلم بيتك زى ما انت عايز
البنت لو مش محترمة غلطانة و تستاهل الناس تبصلها بقلة احترام..بس ده مايديش لأى حد الحق انه يمد ايده عليها...انت كده بترد على الغلط بغلط اكبر منه, ده غير االبنات بتبقى ماشية فى حالها وبرضو بيتبهدلوا,تسميه ايه ده بقى؟ يعنى مثلا فى متحرش اعترف انه بيمد ايده "بيجرب" لو تجاوبت معاه, يبقى فل, لو سكتت بيسيبها, يعنى بيتحرش باللى يلاقيها ف وشه و خلاص...ها؟ عندك شتايم تانية تقولها؟
"يا مصريين اهانة البنات و الاستمتاع المطلق بيهم أصبح أمر روتينى فى حياة الرجالة"
I guess those are also your words.. generalisation is a crime worse than ignorance. you just talk talk talk.. calling "men"are using and abusing women.. you made it a case men against women? right.. ok let me educate you a bit.. if you feel men abuse women then please explain to me fashion shows.. video clips.. movie scenes we see on tv adverts.. adverts for beauty products.. (do u wanna me to continue?)
if there is an enemy for you in the streets it is those low life females strengtheneing every day the image of woman as simply a BITCH. that doesn't say I think so. or that I see women in that way. but this is the way yourself and lots of your friends agree with, don't tell me you did one single lousy step to say NO in a heard voice to those who spread this idiology in our society, our culture becoming more and more sexualized.. no need to mention those like who who are veiled but lack the very basis of any religion which is choice of words when you speak.
your words to describe harrassement or mo3akasat or ta3leekat are really dirty, and the words are the mean I woud know you over here not the veil on your head!
I did not and will not tell a friend not to yekalkes or ye3akes a girl simply cause neither me nor my friends do it. your choice of words and your approach to the problem is absolutely irritating to any ehaved man, woman, or child who reads your page, and you managed to exsport from my fingers the worst words I never use in daily life.
The lack of security in streets is not a threat only to girls opsessed with sexual idiologies, it is a security threat to all of us, men ,women , children, and it won't go just as far as touching some girl's tits or ass, it will go further, look around you, see yhose street kids? see those menadeyeen who take etawa from each car every where? see those who look like Baltageya everywhere? those are still out of bussiness, when egypt gets worse and worse in economics... we will experience further level of threat.
By the way.. you seem to be makboota and so many girls who took the opportunity to release their desire writing in such an ofensive manner. and you may all also be ignorant when you expect us to beleive those evil habbits of mo3akasat are far more spread in our society than the western countries in which no single person can walk around after sunset, espcially women.. nd tell you something, they ain't just suffering from mo3akasat over there but they are used to rape while the raper will definitely enjoy his freedom in few month while he may face death sentence in Egypt.
you hate men,, you hate egypt, guess you may even hate yourself.
بعض الرجال اللى اعترفوا بانهم اتحرشوا بالبنات...و قاللوا:
"أنا شخصيا"أفعل ذلك كل يومين تقريبا ثلاث مرات. و غالبا ما تضحك الفتاة أو تتجاهلنى و قد تنظر لى باحتقار و تمضى و الجريئة منهن تسبنى,و إذا فكرت أن ترفع يدها أباغتها بالسباب, و إذا تجمع الناس حولنا أهرب بسرعة كبيرة بعيدا و أذوب وسط الزحام
re-read.. and then re-read
when I touch, most often the girl smiles at me.
smiles at me
smiles at me
those (most-often) cases are your threat. make your case over those sharameet who jeopard our daily life in the street.
make your case against corruption who left our streets unsecure while el-amn is busy looking for beardeds.
salam
one more thing.. the way we are going through globalisation, privitisation, and so on.. promises more sexual atmosphere nearby , it is already happening.
mark my words girl, we have seen nothiong, and with people like you & manalaa, it will even go speedy.
use your head.. think
Enta kaman da7'alt f 7owar tany elly howa mass media, mashy, another reason for objectifying women, looking at women as means to sexual pleasure and that's it...BUT WHY DO YOU GUYS TREAT YOURSELVES AS VICTIMS? Why don't you take responsibility for your actions for once in your life? why do you blame the video clips, the media, the bitchy girls and NEVER blame yourselves masalan for not taking control of yourselves, not looking at porn, just keeping away from any sexualised content...isn't that YOUR responsibility? YOUR fault? It is. Stop blaming the world. I'm not talking to you personally, if you say you don't harrass ( though you just did when you told me to 'lick' them, walla mesh wa7'ed balak? ah sorry, ana elly astahel).
The lack of security is a problem which doesn't seem to end soon. i don't even want to think about it and sure, it's a threat to all of us.
Law kont 2aret kwayes, badal ma te2ra elly f dma3'ak...ana 3omry ma gebt seeret ay balad tanya simply because I don't know for sure how things are going there, and because making a comparison isn't what I want to do and it's fruitless. If you have read that in another blog roo7 eshteky henak!
I hate men and I hate Egypt and even myself? Pleae don't try to make me seem like a retarted all-loathing freak coz it just won't work :)
As for the comment in Arabic, even if we assume he's saying the truth...and that most girls actually 'smile' when being molested, does that mean that the remaining 'minority' are also bitches who deserve to be abused? You think, masry.
We'll see where people like me and Manalaa are taking Egypt to. You've just made me take it as a challenge.
"BUT WHY DO YOU GUYS TREAT YOURSELVES AS VICTIMS?"..
I thought it was you girls treat yourselves as victims.. isn't that what is all these blogs about?? huh?
"As for the comment in Arabic, even if we assume he's saying the truth"..
heheheeeeey.. so he is a lier.. no doubt.. only if he says what goes on with your agenda then he would be honest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! no doubt
OK.. now thisis a situation .. so u want men to take control.. not looking at porn.. not looking at tv in accord.. walking in street we wshena fe elard.. so u can walk safe from mo3akasat with your underwear bikini if you wish..
by the way, I don't support physical contact even with bitches veiled or not veiled. but please don't victimise them or yourself, it ain't going to work.
"most often when I touch them, they look at me and smile..
smile..
smile.."
the solution is a big trash car to walk streets and wibe those genders of males and females together and clean the streets, only in that trash car you may be able easily to te3seehom.. argghh.. your blog is getting extremely disgusting.
veiled girl who supports shawaaaz!! that's something
"You've just made me take it as a challenge."
YOU KIDDING ME??.. YOU GUYS HAVE TAKEN THE CHALLENGE LONG LONG TIME AGO.. you have been working according to an agenda made before by people like : Enas Eldegedy.. people as wazeer elthakafa elgenseya.. and others..
"and NEVER blame yourselves masalan for not taking control of yourselves, not looking at porn, just keeping away from any sexualised content" .. yes and do like na3ama put our heads in the dust till you manage to corrupt everything around .. right?
by the way, mad el eed is a historic thing that has been made in Gaheleya too, those females who managed to get guys to touch them were the Gawary, they dressed almost like todays modern girls, veiled or unveiled.
also why are you so upset for girls who were touched in nos el balad according to the rumor. I understood since you were 20 it didn't happen to you? and you just THINK it happened in nos elbalad, you didn't see it, I saw a picture for some men beating a guy with stcks while a fully dressed girl stand by. If it did happen on that magnitude we would have more likely seen more pictures on the issue. isn't it right.
you can just keep yourself of the issue and not play victim, if you want me to keep of the issue and not say my opinion on your dirty sexualized blog. fair.. right?
Masry, yes, I'm defending girls who are victims of sexual assault, when a stalker attacks them on the street, they're victims, but when you are so turned on, go and touch a girl against her will...sorry, you're not a victim, you're a pervert.
Yeah men should take control as to not look at girls and girls should take control as to dress modestly and also not look...what's so strange about that?
Yeah a veiled girl who supports shawaz elly ye3eesh yama yeshoof.
Bema enny et7atet f nafs el2afas ma3 wazeer elsaqafa w enas eldeghedy..momken t2olly eh wagh elshabah benna bezabt? Ya3ny hal ana maslan 2olt en el7egab lebs rag3y w en kollo ye2la3 a7san?
I'm not going to negotiate the credibility of the wust elbalad incidents simply because one of the victims is evident in another photo... and that I trust the bloggers who reported them, and I've seen eye witnesses( shop assistants and security men interviewed on TV, the link is there in misrdigital, kollohom kadabeen?)and that I know it can happen...it happened to friends of mine, heya elnass elly mesh 3ayza tsadda2.
Now stop at this part..."your dirty sexualised blog"...ya ret tefahemny bass abl ma temshy, ya3ny eh dirty sexualised blog? heya malhash 3'er ma3nayeen....the first is that my blog turns you on somehow...if so, just point it out ya masry and I'll explain or delete it because getting readers sexually excited is not why I'm writing. Just point it out w netnaqesh.
As for the other probability...that it's sexualised as in "it refers to sex often", this means two things: that you think sex is dirty...and that you think I don't have the right to refer to or talk about sex. No. I'll write whatever that comes to my mind and that I find shareable.Period.
"Yeah a veiled girl who supports shozooz"..
yugghh.. sometimes a word is wroth a thousand, just like a pictures is.. and Iguess you are way out of your veil, culture, and religious basis. you think veil will take you to heaven while you are in the same time very obsessed with the western idiology in regard to what they call human rights etc. you want to be libral while you still want heaven. so seems you found kind of a compromise in your veil.
girls not look, boys not look.. who do u dress up for when you shake your ass on the street. u kidding me????!!!?!
"Ya3ny hal ana maslan 2olt en el7egab lebs rag3y" worse than saying, is acting.. you are obviously working in accord to specific morals that is worse than being unvelied. I guess many unveiled females are way more mo3tarama than your approach to the problem.
so u want me to beleive TV, TV is just so honest.. Tv the one which propagates day and night that women are and only are for pleasure.. that produces their best when a woman shakes her ass and tits and make her a star, TV that have to moral except profit. those profit makers are suddenly honest and true??? really u may need a mind job. think girl.. think
your blog is sexualized it means it is obsessed with sexual issues mainly, and even not in a productive or positive approach manner.. and it is dirty because every thing in life could be discussed, but the way we discuss it make it either neutral, modest or dirty. go figure yourself.
In fact I thought the same, I thought this blog works for you as it turns you on. may be I was wrong. but I beleive in ain't written in a way for discussion and it ain't at all a productive blog. as what is it you want of it? to beleive that girls are victimized.. they face mo3akasan and they are so happy and smiling when they are fuckin touched (as your witness said.. oh I forgot.. he is the only one that lack credibility).. so what.. I will give you a medal
you want to hold testicles and cut them.. fuck.. you are a mad person who definitely have complex.. just like the ass hole who goes after women to stap their asses.. he also might have been victimised of a woman that may be have harrassed him when he was a boy, or have used him for her sexual fullfillment. our idilogy should have urgent checkup in 3abbasiya.
Here is a bit of advice for you little lady if you wanna be productive
you may say that mo3akasat can be categorized to 2 main parts: verbal and physical
verbal is categorized into mild and dirty
physical may also be categorized into mild and aggressive. and none of that is Ta7arrosh Gensy.
ta7arrosh is an act that consumes time. so if you shack your titties in their tight t-shirt under your veil and a young man says "ya 7alawa" it is a mild verbal mo3akasa.
but when two guys stand in your way and keep going around you talking "come with me honey, I will make you enjoy.. etc and they keep doing that le7ad elnasya" this is not mo3akasa.. this is ta7arrosh..
so there is loads of verbal mild and sirty in the streets, obviously most girls enjoy it, so u don't have the right to te2affely 3alehom!! (I guess thats what they would say). at least guys try it, if girls don't react positively they go for another.. this is definitely not ta7arrosh.
then there may be huge amount of mild physical mo3akasa.. like being near your body in mowasalat and so... this has been here for ages.. as long as I know and as long as I heard from my precedings, it has happened, and many times it ends with elly bey3akes yakhod 3al2a..
but few years ago if you may say, things changed, women became those wild creatures we 3enhom maksore, and it was phenomenon that some girls get angry if som man stopped their stockers, shouting "wenta malak ya ro7omak"
people became less positive in various matters, including seeing a man getting so close to a woman in bus for example, find the reasons for our negativity , you may do more use to your gender and ours than your dirtily written blog.
About aggressive physical mo3akasa.. it is the least, bad men and bad women exist.. no surprise. theifs who steal money may have similarily steal your dignity by touching your boobs or ass and run, they stole something, they may have even had the approval of the bitch if they ask for the touch, but they are theifs, and they are like all theifs in our watan, they run away. all they need is a law to get them and get their benality which is never to be 3asyohom. you were touched.. u will recover, there is no crime done for such a punishment. or it should be ok for me to stick a needle in her clitorus that girl that touched my ass with her full grasp in a casino.
so that was physical aggressive mo3akasa. when a guy gets you in corner and keep touching your body in the dark street where you walked lonely (which is partially and definitely your mistake in today's world as you may face being robbed or killed if not also rapped). so if he keeps touching then this is ta7arrosh gensy.
if you work in a place where your boss keeps telling you verbal copmments every day, this is ta7arrosh..
all of this will keep happening, cause their have been and always bad people. the usefulness of your life may be to ind the reasons and try to solve them.. but what do u want, just to write dirty talk and express your hatred to man-kind.
by the way.. I guess I am done with that blog.. but for you to say "oh.. he quit cause he ran out of logic" I will check it one more time later this week, hopefully I won't have a response asking for more.
w ta3eb albak leh ya baba 3ala 7aga mesh 3agbak awy keda? Go to hell!
madam enta 3amel ly feeha motadayen awy roo7 esta3'fer rabena 3la ta7aroshak beya TWICE ya BANY ADAM.
I will answer what you said bass mesh 7as2alak 3la 7aga...wala yefre2 m3aya aslan...
I don't go around shaking my I don't know what in the street you didn't see my attitude SO DON'T PREDICT WHAT YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW. "in accord to specific morals" just because I think differently from you doesn't mean I'm trash..you think homosexuality is shit..I think it's normal, SO FUCKING WHAT! Why do you care what I think? Ana 7orra! You have no right to tell me what to fucking think or do, okay?
oh God you seem to be forgetting this is MY BLOG. ya3ny eh? ya3ny I write in the way I like, when I like it...if you don't appreciate it, don't keep reading! And you shouldn't have wasted your prrrrrrrrrecious time here!
Ana 2olt elak abl keda yally btefham en law fy banat betefra7 w tetbeset awy men el ta7arrosh, sawa2 homma a3'labeya aw aqaleya...mesh ma3na keda en peace ba2a kol ma nla2y bent fel share3 net7arrash beeha. Ya3ny law kol masr malyana 7arameya n7alel elser2a ba2a and make it legalised 3ashan el majority beyesra2o? What kind of logic is
that? And doesn't this make the girls who DON'T want to be touched victims? 3ashan elbanat elly men kawkab elmaree7' elly enta btetkallem 3alehom elly beytbesto lamma 7ad yemed eedo 3alehom...ba2eet elbanat elmo7tarama troo7 fel reglein? You're so SICK!
A7la 7aga ba2a enta katabtaha bgad...ta3reefak lel ta7arosh el gensy......yaaaaaaaaaaah da elmafrood yettebe3 f worldwide encyclopedias ya shei7'...eh el 3abqareya dy?
If someone touched my breasts intentionally and ran away and never saw me again this is not ta7arosh? Omal yeb2a eh ya masry? lazem yefdel aktar men tes3a w 7'amseen d2ee2a masek feya 3ashan yeb2a ta7arrosh? What are you smoking? Roo7 ya mosaqaf e2ra eh howa elta7arosh e gensy "
Sexual harassment is unwanted and unwelcome behavior, or attention, of a sexual
nature that interferes with your life. Sexual advances, forced sexual activity, statements
about sexual orientation or sexuality, requests for sexual favors, and other VERBAL or
PHYSICAL conduct of a sexual nature all constitute sexual harassment. "
and the website ya mosaqaf is www.sexualharrassmentsupport.org VERBAL OR PHYSICAL w ma2alsh kam marra w ma7adedsh elwa2t. fe3lan amal masr f nas amsalak.
mat7awelsh ba2a tzen 3la dma3'y...enty btekrahy elregala enty btekrahy 3eshtek 3ashan you're wasting your breath.
it's abusers welly sakteen 3alehom zay 7adretak keda are the ones I hate so just keep the fuck away!
هاي شباب
معلش لكن أنا أعتقد أن صاحبة هذه المدونة إما شرموطة عاملة نفسها محترمة (ودول كتيييييييييير أوي).. يا إما محترمة نفسها تكون شرموطة
معلش إحنا بنتكلم
طب ممكن اتكلم انا كمان فى مدونتى , ولا دى مدونة سعادتك بس تدخل تشتم فيها زى ما انت عايز؟
الناس يا انونيموس فى القرن الواحد و العشرين عقبال آمالتك لما بيبقى عندهم رأى مخالف,بيوضحوا رأيهم الأول و بيقوه بأدلة أو بحوار منطقى....يعنى مثلا بقول ان البنات لازم يبهدلوا اللى يمد ايده عليهم. ليه؟ عشان المتحرشين يتلموا و يخليهم فى نفسهم بدل ما يدمروا حياتنا عشان "متعتهم",او تقوللى ان مدونتك سافلة عشان كذا كذا كذا و ساعتها بقى
نبقى نتكلم و اكيد حاجيب مناخيرك الأرض.
اما انك داخل تشتم و ماشى فا ده مالوش غير معنى واحد؛ انك واحد دماغك فاضيةومابتفكرش غير فى المعنى السطحى للكلام...يعنى شفت كلمة "هانخصيك" قلت بس...شرموطة,شفتنى باتكلم عن التحرش قلت اكيد واحدة ماشية على حل شعرها
بص يا شاطر, ماتقولليش انا راجل خايف على مستقبل البلد, لانك لو راجل كنت تحاول تعمل مدونة تدافع فيها عن مبادئك لو عندك مباد ىء
و كمان و حياتك ماتقولليش انك متدين و ازاى انا بدافع عن المثليين, لانك لسة قاذف محصنة.
مين ده اللي قذف محصنة
أنا مقذفتش لا محصنة ولا غير محصنة
يعني الوقتي محصنة تيجي وتقول ان الواد اللي في بطنها ابني؟؟؟!! لا يا روح امك.. انا لا قذفت ولا عندي سرعة قذف وباخد فياجرا وبالبس العازل ومافيش حاجة اتقذفت
ومين المثليين دول؟
ومبادئ مين ومستقبل بلد مين
إيه الكلام الكبير ده
ايواااة مادام هو كلام كبير ماتتدخلش فيه يا شاطر
فضيحة تحرش البنات جنسيا بالشباب
على هذا الرابط
http://manalaa.net/sexual_harrasement_and_eid#comment-36100
Somewhere in America, a woman is raped every 2 minutes, according to the U.S. Department of Justice.
when it happens an accident of some dirty guys attack some girls, they just get out of their stupid minds and shout..
hey,, isn't this proof enough our culture is dying and that we should NOW live and think like the west and like americans..
what a stupidity
أحووه هوه الرجالة داخلة تكلم كده علشان يهيجو نفسهم علينا
It is really sad to read such offensive comments. However, the post itself was offensive to many, because you are generalizing the idea to "men", and may I say also, that the idea is unpractical. You think someone will wait for you until you bring a pin and poke him in his balls???? Or do you think that you will be able to beat the sh.... out of a mollestor (unless you are a kickboxer or black belt holder- you have to respect physiology)??
In my opinion, best way for you girls is to stick to Islamic teachings, get yourselves some decent clothes and never get out to "suspecious" places alone.
As a man, when I see a girl wearing "almost nothing", I have the impression that she wants me and everyone else to glance at her and even have a "bite" maybe. So, it's not only men's fault... it's also women's (do not forget the many other factors in Arab communities, mainly inability of many adults to open a house and have a "legitimate" wife).
Anonymous,
I haven't found the 'generalizing' part you referred to, could you please be more specific?
I know the idea is unpractical. I know the idea is surreal. But what's practical? What's real? When I find someone who wants to ruin my day and maybe my life just to have some fun, how the hell am I supposed to respond? Be silent? Call the police? I know I should, but this is not always reliable as I mentioned. In fact, no matter the different strengths of men and women, each has a weak point in their bodies. In extreme cases, women are advised to kick men's balls or scratch their eyes to save themselves.
Ok. There are people who stick to the teachings of religion and others who don't. Let us see what Islam ordered us to do with ppl who don't follow its teachings; in the case of tightly clad women, you men are ordered to lower your gaze, right? If all women dress modestly, God wouldn't ask us to lower our gaze. He ordered us because he knows there will be women who wear tight clothes and so on. Now, lower your gaze, He did not order you to look at them, speak to them, let alone touch them, LOWER YOUR GAZE. This is what He said. So really, when you speak of glancing at them or biting them , this is your own mind telling you that, not the teachings of your religion (I know you didn't say that, but I'm just stating a point here).
I know women are ordered to wear the veil, but ppl are also ordered not to lie, not to abuse one another, not to mistreat their parents, not to curse one another. Does this always happen? Hell not. Can we judge them? No we can't, because it is God who should judge them. Not me, not you.
Mind you, sexual harassment has nothing to do with marriage. It is easy to wank, hook up with a prostiute or watch porn...it will give men more relief than harassment. Not to mention that many, many married men harass women..I'm sorry to say happily married men as well.
It is only the force of the law that could set everything right.
Hey wild ,
look i like this blog , i thnk givin people a place to talk freely is a one important element of constructive discussions . . . .Id like to note on some posts in the blog
First , bwt the 'u wana be liberal n u wana go to heaven' , hey mr . . . Bein liberal doesn mean u r in hell . . . 2nd . . Homosexuality is a sexual orientation nt a behaviour one can change , we shun jus shoot'em as u , wild , said . . So i thnk its normal too . .
3rd . . Bwt difficulty in gettin married that makes sm1 harass a gurl . . . Thats nt a reason at all , as wild said u can hook up with a prostitute . . (where can i find her :D , lol jus kiddin) . . .
4th . . .Y do sm o u people r so barbarian in the way o discussin sm matters . . . Ratin a blog as nc17 doesn mean u shud offense the bloggers by such words . . . She din do u anythn to call her like u did . . .
5th . . BOTH ARE VICTIMS N BOTH ARE GUILTY . . .Guys look n keep lookin at gurlz wearin nthn , they advance to sexual harrassment . . . Gurls , r guilty of triggering the sexual desires in men . . . Look ppl . . We r becmin part of a new culture exported to us 4m west . . . We take it all , or leave it all . . . If u find gurls wearin such tight , thats her culture n she din ask u to axpt seein her like that , bt that doesn mean u shud touch her to find smthn to masturbate u while u r virtualizin her havin sex with u . . . N u gurls should try to be apart 4m places where such thngs are known to b done . . Cuz existin in such places might give sm bastards ideas that u r bitches . . So wear what u want to , . Bt choose where to walk . . .Guys if u dun wana lower the gaze , then dun . . . Bt the gaze doesn mean to touch . . .
Wild . . .Id like to comment bwt the main subject of the post . . Nailin men in their balls wudn be that efficient plus the guy cud act more agressively . . . If u wanna protect ur selves . .Use the electric shock when walkin in such places . . .
Hero . .
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